July 25, 2013 at 10:13 am #1305
With New 52 rolling through it’s second year and Marvel NOW! still going strong in it’s first, which is doing a better job of rebooting/rebranding their universe?July 25, 2013 at 10:40 am #1312
I prefer Marvel as a rule, but it feels like New 52 is picking up their game. They first few issues from New 52 Wonder Woman, Catwoman, and the whole Star fire thing. I’m still having trouble with how they do women, though Batwoman is having a phenomenal run.
All this of course, while Marvel launches the X-men with an all woman team. I haven’t picked it up yet, but Brian Wood, it is probably going to be awesome.July 25, 2013 at 11:07 am #1313
Full disclosure and to use a classic term, I am a Marvel zombie. Even as a fan of comics in general reading DC books is a struggle for me. So, when New 52 started I considered it a bold yet cheap move to garner new readership. It also seemed like a sizeable F you to their established readers. To me DC’s opinion seems to be, “It’s not the history or continuity that matters, just the characters” and in that regard I feel they have little respect for much else. By much else I mean people and by people I mean creators and readers. What I’m trying to say is that to me New 52 appeared to simply be a cash grab so I didn’t bother to invest my time or hard earned dollars in lining Time Warner’s pockets. Sure, I may have been perviously biased but it failed to make a new reader out of me. That said, when the second wave of books happened (Earth 2, World’s Finest, Dial H, Batman Inc., G.I. Combat, and The Ravagers) I decided to give some of them a try because I am a rational person and they were more alinged with my interest. Simply put, I didn’t like them. I am reading the new Batman/Superman book which is only two issues in but it’s weird and doesn’t make much sense. It’s really pretty though. Is this what being new to comics feels like?
As a Marvel fan I am mostly enjoying Marvel NOW! For one I appreciate that it’s more of a rebranding. Despite the new #1’s the story lines continued from the previous volumes and continuity was maintained. I go back and forth between hating Superior Spider-man and being somewhat entertained by it. I love whats going on with the X-men and Avengers. Wolverine and his ability to be everywhere (which has kinda been explained) still annoy me and Captain America is a dick. With regards to the Avengers, I will actually say that Marvel Now! is a success because it has gotten me to enjoy and even anticipate new issues of books that I, even as a marvel fan, never had any interest in. I never cared for the Avengers and never really saw the point in them. Right before the rebranding I remember saying that the team should only deal with threats to the planet as a whole. Guess what the current story line is about. Also, all of the cool cosmic characters are getting some love.
I’m gonna stop here. For now…July 25, 2013 at 11:14 am #1314
Kari, I’m with you on that. Marvel is doing much better with their female characters. The all women x-men book has been good so far. Only being two issues in that’s not saying much but it is Brian Wood so I expect some solid storytelling. However, his run on Ultimate X-men hasn’t been the greatest and contains probably the worst single issue he has ever written in my opinion.July 25, 2013 at 11:28 am #1316
The New 52 is pretty insulting, not only is the Joker now just stupid, the entire thing was an end run around finally paying their dues to the Siegel and Schuster families. It’s as if DC should just change their corporate motto to “screwing the creators of one of our most profitable IPs one comic at a time.”July 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm #1320
I am a fan of both the big two, but I lean toward DC. I think DC chose the more difficult approach in starting over entirely (somehow with the exception of Batman and Green Lantern?). I’ve been enjoying the more mystic related titles (swamp thing, animal man, phantom stranger). That being said, I find myself disappointed with the majority and I keep waiting for some of them to “get better”. There are few I really look forward to anymore. One of the things I used to like about DC was its history and the concept of legacy heroes. What used to be the company’s strength has disappeared (earth 2 helps some), and many of the characters I enjoyed have either become composites or ignored entirely (wally west….). Right now, there are more Marvel titles grabbing my attention, than DC (x books have been pretty good, as well as the cosmic stuff). I also have reservations about the upcoming Marvel event, which seems to be Crisis on Infinite Earths, and Wolverine screwed with time in Age of Ultron, so did Hal Jordan in Zero Hour. Either way, New 52 is still better than Heroes Reborn, right?July 25, 2013 at 4:15 pm #1321
Haha Most things are better than Heroes Reborn.July 30, 2013 at 3:03 am #1345
There’s this great conversation that takes place between Havok and Captain America in Uncanny Avengers where Captain America admits that the Avengers didn’t do enough for the mutants of the world during the time when mutants were being hunted and killed to the point of extinction. As a reader I was upset that nothing was being done. Where were the Avengers in all that madness? But as always, Marvel comes through and they address this question and bring the various characters of the Marvel universe together. I was so happy when Captain America admits that they should have done more and to make up for their lack of action, he wants x-men to join the Avengers, which to me is amazing. It demonstrates that while retaining the darker aspects from the previous stories, moving forward there’s going to be a theme of changing the world from a position of fear and hatred to one of inclusion and acceptance – or as far as the Avengers and x-men are concerned. the story of the X-men in which they preserve and fight for a world that fears and hates them has always been one of my favorite stories and these new titles are going to be amazing. And Cable is back to being a badass outlaw…AWESOME.
When I picked up the new Justice League 52, I was impressed with the writers and artists involved in the relaunch and I wanted to see where DC was taking its biggest characters. I liked that DC branded the Justice League vigilantes that were being pursued by the authorities but if you’ve ever read a Justice League comic book, you know that won’t last long, and it doesn’t. by the time they send Darkseid on his way, they’re given trustworthy superhero status by the world. It begs the question, what themes are DC going to explore or be able to explore with this relaunch of the Justice League? I love the Justice League and i love reading Green Lantern but from my perspective Marvel has always done a marvelous job (does that count as a pun?) of relating and discussing current socio-cultural and political issues pertaining to our times. DC also incorporates these aspects into their titles but to me Marvel owns that ability more so than DC. My vote: Marvel wins.August 19, 2013 at 9:36 pm #1589
New 52 = Old corporate tricks
Marvel Now = Marvel Right Now — this very second. And only this very second. No past, no future, no continuity, no sense.
Maybe I’m just old and grumpy (well, definitely I’m old and grumpy. maybe that grumpiness drives my opinion), but if we are looking at re-launches then we should be looking at Valiant.
That is all.
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